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NickD

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Referring to the good old days, in 1973 not only did we not have alldata, didn't have an internet either. But we did have a coupon in the owners manual to purchase an OEM shop manual with free shipping for four bucks.

Same manuals today are four times as long mostly with constantly repeated safety information. Also for people with technical skills as some safety knowledge not dumb enough to stick there nose in an engine driven fan or build a bon fire on top of a fuel tank. But warned of this a zillion times. Looking at 300-400 bucks per manual.
 

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Well, this may get you started on a good bon fire, my first ever car was a 1979 ltd. With a windsor engine, and I went to canadian tire, bought a 7$ manual.

I took a dump, time to dump, read whole thing.

I am 5 foot 7in, weigh 150pns, book was not long to read. Will update this later, it is to funny. My girl just came back from nursing work, she is way to sexy in that blue uniform.
 

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Ha, I am 6'2" weigh 205 pounds large bone, doctor tells me I am overweight, suppose to be 197 pound maximum so at a health risk.

First call was a 1930 Olds, picked it up on my paper route for ten bucks, did not need a shop manual, was 14 years old at the time, got it running, would get up at 2 AM and take it for a ride. Lived a block from the police station, only one squad car, cops were in there sleeping.

Most beautiful woman in the world is my wife, least I think so, that is all that counts.

Did not like reading literature at school, was reading automotive books to learn how these things ticked. Parents never had a car, lived in the country and had to walk.
 

nickb2

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Dang, now I have to write something, cuz every time you write Nickd, I find something that resembles us.

When I am in class, you can show me all day bong on acetate, or give videos of theory. I I cant see see it done, or do it myself, I zone out and look out the window.

My room, when I was a kid, was hot wheels, model cars, airplanes, even the stealth bomber that was way bigger than my buddies death star. I told him, at least this thing is real. I built it myself with no instructions, the dog ate it. At least it wasn't my homework, I had to sell drugs later on to know fractions. :eek:

That same buddy, I beat the shyte out of cuz I was gone to camp, he promised to deliver my newspapers. 128 a day. He f offed after 1st day. My mom asked me why I beat him. I said he promised to deliver. He didn't

My dad was proud, but had to side with mom. No out time except for paper and dog duty. for a long while.
 
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nickb2

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One of my heros is Jaques Demers. He made it to head coach of the montreal canadians, all this with dyslexia.

It is not easy when you cant learn like other ppl, so you find ways. That is why I post alot of visual aide for me, even stupid videos, cuz my brain relates certain stuff to a certain tune, an event, a problem encountered. I never remember the science words behind it all, that takes a whole other mental excessive, which is more cognitive, and why I loose alot of sleep over proper translation, and usually miss the ball.

Alot of ppl always underestimate me, and I prefer it that way, but in my heart, I want them to see me as equal, but I am not. I am just different.

In many ways, I usually always scare ppl at first cuz I get intensive real quick cuz I want to assimalate as much as I can pronto. They get spooked, and it shows.


That ends up with me just entering my own mind again and figuring it out on my own, which untill now, has worked sporadically. As I get older, ppl are more willing and in nature, more available for a person like me, cuz life has taught them something. The guy looking out the window IS F ING listening. That hit home mostly when I saw my own son in same boat. I was the most prepared to help. Sadly, my ex did not see that this way. So my son and I are far. Again, just part of how ppl don't see intelligence in the same way as lets say pop videos.

Some say a guy like this is more TELNETTing than me. And here I am off on another tangent. Why, do hard guys like me, automatically get the stupid pass????????????:eek::giveup:
 

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Back in 2010 I got Alldata on a bunch of disks, from a cable tv site and still use them today had to make changes every time MS updated from XP to all those through to WIN 10 but still works and saved me thousands in money and time.. until I started seeing newer than 2011 vehicles.

ALI has a disk full too.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001662096.html?src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=494-037-6276&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&albcp=1582410664&albag=59754279756&trgt=743612850714&crea=en33001662096&netw=u&device=c&albpg=743612850714&albpd=en33001662096&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyPm7pvDw6gIVjaZ3Ch2siwCfEAYYByABEgJrxfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

There are multiple options.

my 3 $.02 $.02 $.02
 

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Have a 5,000 page shop manual for our 2017 Hyundai Elantra Limited in pfd format, using Adobe Acrobat Pro that has a far superior search engine then the reader version, but somehow lacks an index. The owners manual is over 700 pages long with a rather long section on DMV driving information, and a couple thousand of disclaimers.

I you are wondering what that push button is for on your dash panel may take several years to find it. 88 Supra is an extremely complex vehicle, owners manual is 88 pages long and gets directly to the point. Shop manual is wonderful, full technical specifications on all the sensors. What Ford or GM says, replace with a known good sensor, their legal department does not want to give specifications that may result in a warranty claim.

Just about every scenario is covered in the owner manual like do not drive standing on your head may result in an accident so if you do something stupid owners manual protects the manufacturers from being sued.

Cessna Aircraft was sued for 7 million bucks because some idiot tried to adjust his seat while taken off, slid back, weigh and balance was way off with three passengers, crashed and killed all of them. Was not a warning on the dash not to adjust your seat while flying. But if aircraft people put signs up for all the safety information, no room for the instruments.

Was around 1988, all the automotive companies hired attorneys. Our clinic has more attorneys than doctors. Did you know taking out a pizza from a 425*F oven may be hot?

Sure says don't smoke working around a fuel system, but says nothing about using an acetylene torch.

Sure loved the Alldata manual on our 2010 Cruze, warranty was darn near expired when driven off the lot. Shop manual was a three volume set and do you really need their 6000 buck scanner to change a tire. Circuits were bits and piece covered over a hundred pages and Volume two told you to go to volume one or three. They do a beautiful job to save you hours.
 

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Come to think of it I have a factory manual for for van that must be at least 8 inches think + 2 or 3 add in books that are less than an inch thick. It was cheap off e bay. Also more obsolete scanners than any guy should have.

Winnebago was the first to label, ( do not leave drivers seat while in motion) Some ID 10 T really did it then he sued Winnebago after the crash.

Well I think that's how it went down.
 

nickb2

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Winnebago was the first to label, ( do not leave drivers seat while in motion) Some ID 10 T really did it then he sued Winnebago after the crash.
That was a funny one. Worst is I can actually imagine some dude high out of kite in his 1982 bago and getting up on interstate x and such to go to the header. Oops, its the campers fault, had no (do not get up cuz we are flying) sticker, lets sue them dry and go buy more blow. ;):D:fixed::giveup:
 

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Was just pointing out back then with any vehicle could get a full service manual with free shipping from a coupon in the rear of your owners manual for five bucks. And they had complete fold out circuit diagrams in full color and even gave specifications on various sensors so no doubt if they were good or bad. But today tell you to replace it with a known good one! How can they tell if its good or bad if you can't test it.

It was in the latter 80's our engineering and service department got loaded with attorney's, I could not talk to another engineering manger, each department had it own engineering manager unless an attorney was on the phone with us.

Really doubt if they knew what we were talking about but they were there. Didn't want the manual department to give specs because would be liable for a warranty repair. Manual department actually had some good artist, but really not very good with the mechanics or the electronics. So basically have an industry where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

Use to go to a good dealer with clean hands to read their shop manuals, some would even let me make copies, but this is all history, no more printed manuals, all on the computer now. Still some printed but will cost 300-400 bucks. In three of four volume sets with constantly repeated safety information, have yet to run into a hot bumper if the engine was just shut off, but a warning about that. Would think pros would all these stuff, but is a pizza taking out of a 425*F oven really hot?

We do live in an insane world because we elected insane people to run it. Was some good things, EPA did have precedence over your bean counters.
 
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